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===Mike DiCenso=== | ===Mike DiCenso=== | ||
A long time versus debate participant. He seems to have drawn the ire of some pro-Wars debaters in recent years for proposing an alternative methodology and | A long time versus debate participant. He seems to have drawn the ire of some pro-Wars debaters in recent years for proposing an alternative scaling methodology and conclusions for turbolaser firepower that is at odds with [[Brian Young]]'s: | ||
''So how big are the asteroids? On both the Strek-v-Swars.Net forum, as well as Matt Carpenter's forum, a variety of scalings were done, often using the approximate width of the TL bolts, as opposed to Young's method, which involved comparing the asteroids to the TL's length. The use of the TL width produced a more accurate scaling, simply due to the fact that height (when impacting or just a frame from impact an asteroid) is less effected than using the length since the the length measurements require correcting for the 3/4 view perspective we are seeing them at. The height of the TL was determined based on comparisons of TL bolts passing close to objects like the X-wing fighters in ANH, and the '''Falcon''' in TESB. After that was done, an average was made, and the ratio of the height of the TLs to the long axis of the asteroids was determined. When all was said and done the asteroids in the TESB ISD scene were averaged out between 1.5 to 8 meters. On the extreme outside 14 meters was the maximum size (as scaled by [[Kane Starkiller]]). Nowhere near the 20-40 meter size. So about 16 TJ, assuming a perfectly spherical asteroid of 8 meters. The wattage would be around 48 TW, since it takes 8 full frames out of 24 to vaporize the asteroid. However, because the asteroids are lumpy, not perfect spheres, the energy and power required to vaporize them will likely be somewhat less than this.'' | ''So how big are the asteroids? On both the Strek-v-Swars.Net forum, as well as Matt Carpenter's forum, a variety of scalings were done, often using the approximate width of the TL bolts, as opposed to Young's method, which involved comparing the asteroids to the TL's length. The use of the TL width produced a more accurate scaling, simply due to the fact that height (when impacting or just a frame from impact an asteroid) is less effected than using the length since the the length measurements require correcting for the 3/4 view perspective we are seeing them at. The height of the TL was determined based on comparisons of TL bolts passing close to objects like the X-wing fighters in ANH, and the '''Falcon''' in TESB. After that was done, an average was made, and the ratio of the height of the TLs to the long axis of the asteroids was determined. When all was said and done the asteroids in the TESB ISD scene were averaged out between 1.5 to 8 meters. On the extreme outside 14 meters was the maximum size (as scaled by [[Kane Starkiller]]). Nowhere near the 20-40 meter size. So about 16 TJ, assuming a perfectly spherical asteroid of 8 meters. The wattage would be around 48 TW, since it takes 8 full frames out of 24 to vaporize the asteroid. However, because the asteroids are lumpy, not perfect spheres, the energy and power required to vaporize them will likely be somewhat less than this.'' | ||
===Who is like God arbour=== | ===Who is like God arbour=== | ||
Revision as of 15:08, 8 January 2009
StarfleetJedi Forums are the private user forums hosted by JMSpock for the primary purpose of providing a polite and reasonable discussion for the Star Trek versus Star Wars debate. It also provide forums for discussion of other versus debates, such as Stargate versus Star Wars, and a variety of non-versus debate topics (usually hosted in the 'Other' forum). It replaced the now defunct strek-v-swars board which served the exact same purpose [citation needed]. It is controversial among some members of SDN under the belief that Darkstar's ideas are thoroughly embraced and repeated until they have come to accept those distortions as canon itself [citiation needed].
Active Pro-Trek posters
JMSpock
Owner and admin
GStone
Is considered controverisal by some because he argues for the possibility of the Federation winning a conflict with Ian Bank's Culture.
BigHarryMountainMan
Aka tjhairball. Believed by some to be JMSpock.
2046
One of the many screen names of Darkstar
Mike DiCenso
A long time versus debate participant. He seems to have drawn the ire of some pro-Wars debaters in recent years for proposing an alternative scaling methodology and conclusions for turbolaser firepower that is at odds with Brian Young's:
So how big are the asteroids? On both the Strek-v-Swars.Net forum, as well as Matt Carpenter's forum, a variety of scalings were done, often using the approximate width of the TL bolts, as opposed to Young's method, which involved comparing the asteroids to the TL's length. The use of the TL width produced a more accurate scaling, simply due to the fact that height (when impacting or just a frame from impact an asteroid) is less effected than using the length since the the length measurements require correcting for the 3/4 view perspective we are seeing them at. The height of the TL was determined based on comparisons of TL bolts passing close to objects like the X-wing fighters in ANH, and the Falcon in TESB. After that was done, an average was made, and the ratio of the height of the TLs to the long axis of the asteroids was determined. When all was said and done the asteroids in the TESB ISD scene were averaged out between 1.5 to 8 meters. On the extreme outside 14 meters was the maximum size (as scaled by Kane Starkiller). Nowhere near the 20-40 meter size. So about 16 TJ, assuming a perfectly spherical asteroid of 8 meters. The wattage would be around 48 TW, since it takes 8 full frames out of 24 to vaporize the asteroid. However, because the asteroids are lumpy, not perfect spheres, the energy and power required to vaporize them will likely be somewhat less than this.
Who is like God arbour
AKA Wilga or WILGA. Believed by some to be AVOGARDO
Active Pro-Wars posters
Cock_Knocker
The nick of long-time Versus debater Wayne Poe.
Kane Starkiller
Probably the most active and staunch defender of Star Wars on SFJN.
Cpl Kendal
ILikeDeathNote
Active Non-Trek or Wars posters
Mr. Oragahn
Appears to be more of a proponent of the superiority of Stargate technology, than of either Star Trek or Star Wars.