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Fanatical | Fanatical [[Trektard]]s speak a different language than the rest of society. To aid members of the general population who might be big enough gluttons for punishment to want to understand them, we present this helpful translation guide: | ||
== A == | == A == | ||
Affect: Completely obliterate everything within the stated radius. | ;Affect: Completely obliterate everything within the stated radius.<ref>[http://www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/Database/Query-ST.php?Series=VOY&EpName=Scorpion&Analysis=mine&Submit=Submit Trektard interpretation of Tuvok's description of the borg weapon in "Scorpion"]</ref> | ||
;Any moment: anytime within the next week.<ref>[http://www.starfleetjedi.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=9592#9592 Who is like God arbour's response to "Sullust to Endor"]</ref> | |||
;Assumption: anything the Trekkie feels like pulling out of his ass and should be treated as if it were canon. | |||
== B == | == B == | ||
Biased: Warsie who won't let me get away with my trektard bullshit | ;Biased: Warsie who won't let me get away with my trektard bullshit <ref>[[Husker (DM) Jay]]'s cowardly way of dealing with Stardestroyer.net or any warsie arguments he can't refute</ref> | ||
;Boring: Trektard response to avoid admitting his argument makes no sense <ref>[http://www.starfleetjedi.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=9592#9592 Who is like God arbour's response to "Sullust to Endor"]</ref> | |||
== C == | == C == | ||
;Capture: see ‘Affect’ | |||
;Censorship: daring to enforce the forum rules of SD.net. The trektard posts stupid, unsupported claims, commits numerous other rule violations and subsequently gets banned. He then whines on any other forum that will tolerate him about how SD.net won't tolerate his "alternative non-pro-wars" views | |||
;Collapsing buildings: all thats needed for a [[Base Delta Zero|BDZ]] to turn a city covered planet's surface to slag | |||
;Consulting experts: trekkie busy removing the warsie's boot from said trekkie's ass. <ref>[http://bbs.stardestroyer.net/viewtopic.php?t=39561&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=12 Mike Wong kicking Stewie's ass]</ref> | |||
== D == | == D == | ||
Destroy: completely vaporize due 100% to the energy of the impacting weapon, even if the target is known to contain components that are known to be highly explosive, and even if debris can clearly be seen flying away from the explosion. | ;Death Threat: any 100% fictional story written by a warsie that includes bodily harm to one or more of the characters even if none of them actually die | ||
;Debate challenge: the Trektard gets to set any rules for declaring victory he wants.<ref>[http://www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/HateMail/RSA/Challenge.html Darkstar trying to dictate insane terms for the debate with Mike Wong]</ref> | |||
;Destroy: completely vaporize due 100% to the energy of the impacting weapon, even if the target is known to contain components that are known to be highly explosive, and even if debris can clearly be seen flying away from the explosion. | |||
;Details: something that can be completely ommited if doing so helps the Trektard's argument/not doing so blows said argument out of the water. However, if a warsie leaves out the slightest bit of information when quoting, even if it has no bearing on the topic being discussed, its a delibrate lie. | |||
;Diluting the original issue: Pointing out where the Trekkie has made logical errors on a sentence by sentence basis, thereby diluting his post by "trivial quotation tactics."<ref>[http://forum.spacebattles.com/showthread.php?p=3624345#post3624345 Bryan on Spacebattles.com objecting to Aratech doing a point-by-point rebuttal of his arguments]</ref> | |||
;Discard evidence: show that the Trekkie’s assumptions regarding said evidence are bullshit. | |||
== E == | |||
;Education: | |||
# Time served. | |||
# Something that can be acquired through google searching | |||
# Something not applicable to/needed for debate | |||
;Emotional impact: mocking a Trektard's ridiculous self-refuting arguments; attempt to distract from the fact that the Trektard's timetable is utterly absurd.<ref>[http://www.starfleetjedi.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=9606#9606 Darkstar's response to "Sullust to Endor"]</ref> | |||
;Emotional investment: being proud of one's academic accomplishments when the trektard thinks one ''should be'' ashamed of them and hide them under a rock, rather than using them to show just how far above the trekkie he is. | |||
;Enemy is no longer firing: enemy gunnery crew has been completely exterminated . | |||
;Every-day SW reader: | |||
# A reliable source of SW information, even though most are ignorant teenagers who sheepishly recited the ridiculous five-mile Executor claim. | |||
# One of the dozen or so [[Darkstar]] cockgoblins at [[StarfleetJedi Forums]]. | |||
# A legitimate, logical use of the appeal to popularity fallacy.<ref>[http://bbs.stardestroyer.net/viewtopic.php?t=118216 Darkstar's state of debate 2008]</ref> | |||
;Evidence: | |||
# Something that does not matter in a debate about things based in fiction. | |||
# Anything a Trektard feels like making up.<ref>[http://bbs.stardestroyer.net/viewtopic.php?t=190 The "band of brightness" from Darkstar's undefined Death Star Chain reaction theory]</ref> | |||
;Explanation: Any idea that weakens Star Wars technology levels but which doesn't actually explain anything. When actually examined, is clearly a bunch of nonsense.<ref>[http://bbs.stardestroyer.net/viewtopic.php?t=190 Darkstar's undefined Death Star Chain reaction]</ref> | |||
== F == | == F == | ||
Forget: Not reading the Trekkie’s responses to ''other'' posters. | ;Forget: Not reading the Trekkie’s responses to ''other'' posters. | ||
== I == | |||
;Ignore: | |||
# See 'forget' | |||
# point out that something is a figment of the trektard's imagination.<ref>[http://bbs.stardestroyer.net/viewtopic.php?t=118216 Darkstar's state of debate 2008]</ref> | |||
# A warsie admitting he don't have an explanation and dare to point out to the trektard that he doesn't either; that a completely undefined mechanism doesn't explain a damned thing (see 'Explanation').<ref>[http://www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/HateMail/RSA/Round5a-2.html Mike Wong vs Darkstar debate round 5b point 2]</ref> | |||
;Ignore Evidence and/or Canon: | |||
# Not make the same wanked assumptions about said evidence the Trektard would. | |||
# Not interpret a statement literally, even when said statement makes absolutely zero sense. | |||
;Invasion: Ten or fewer members of a rival board of thousands come to embarrass me on my cum-covered VS thread. Even if some of them are regular members. | |||
== L == | |||
;Legal threat: daring to mention to a trektard that their committing libel against one of their debate opponents might result in legal trouble in real life. | |||
== | ;Lie: something only warsies do | ||
== M == | |||
;Metaphor: something that should be interpreted literally | |||
;Misrepresentation: direct quoting | |||
;Molten Slag: ''almost'' melted planetary surface | |||
== N == | == N == | ||
;Nonsense: any part of canon, official material or an official quote that the trektard doesn't like and doesn't fit in with his pet 'theories'. <ref>[http://bbs.stardestroyer.net/viewtopic.php?t=118216 Darkstar's state of debate 2008]</ref><ref>[http://www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/HateMail/RSA/Round5a-1.html Mike Wong vs Darkstar debate round 4a]</ref> | |||
;Normal: The fanatical trektard and all his trektard cockgoblins. Everyone else is a 'rabid warsie'. <ref>[http://bbs.stardestroyer.net/viewtopic.php?t=118216 Darkstar's state of debate 2008]</ref> | |||
;Not focus on (a particular issue): not show any evidence regarding said issue at all | |||
;Not impossible: proof that it happened <ref>[http://www.starfleetjedi.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=9592#9592 Who is like God arbour's response to "Sullust to Endor" (thanks wyrm!!!)]</ref> | |||
== O == | |||
;Override canon: not mention at all. (note, in SW, there is a hierarchy to deal with explicit contradictions in [[canon]] material. Many trektards ([[Andrew Joshua Talon]], [[Husker (DM) Jay]]) try and claim this applies to topics the higher canon is completely silent on. In other words, if the C- or S- canon mentions a particular capability and the films say nothing about it, the Trektards interpret said silence as a contradiction.) | |||
== P == | |||
;Persecution: | |||
# Arguing against a Trektard. Refuting the trektard's arguments | |||
# Using public information easily available about the Trektard, no matter how harmless | |||
;Planetary Shield: a weapon and therefore something [[Alderaan]] did not have because of Leia's statement that her home planet didn't have any weapons. | |||
;Premise: groundless assumption | |||
;Pulled-from-thin-air: realizing a galaxy wide conflict would require far more troops than modern day-Earth nations.<ref>[http://bbs.stardestroyer.net/viewtopic.php?t=118216 Darkstar's state of debate 2008]</ref> | |||
;Persuasive video: visual medium showing how ridiculous a Trektard's argument really is.<ref>[http://www.starfleetjedi.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=9606#9606 Darkstar's response to "Sullust to Endor"]</ref> | |||
== R == | |||
;Refute (as in an argument or piece of official SW literature): the Trekkie doesn't like it but can't logically show it wrong. | |||
== S == | |||
;Stationary: does NOT imply that a starship is ''not'' actually moving. | |||
;Substantial Content: something that must support Trektard's delusions.<ref>[http://www.starfleetjedi.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=9592#9592 Who is like God arbour's response to "Sullust to Endor"]</ref> | |||
;Suckered: grow up, face reality and get an education; to let go of the wishful thinking of ignorance | |||
;Superluminal boost | |||
# sucked or shunt into | |||
# something that MUST lower the energy requirement of the Death Star rather than raising it. | |||
;[[Suspension of disbelief]]: the warsie thinks Star Wars actually is real. Note that Trektards making such accusations are often the same people running around claiming Star Trek is completely realistic and predicted and/or is responsible for technological innovations like cell phones. | |||
== T == | |||
;Tactical Experience: I've been playing RTS games for over 10 years. | |||
;Theory: | |||
# anything that gives the trektard wet dreams, even though it isn't even defined.<ref>[http://bbs.stardestroyer.net/viewtopic.php?t=190 Darkstar's undefined Death Star Chain reaction]</ref> | |||
# not actually canon but the trektard will describe it as if it were, in the same sentence and in the same tone as his description of other canon facts.<ref>[http://www.starfleetjedi.net/a5.html JMSpock's "Star Wars uses diesel fusion" idiocy]</ref> | |||
;Tool: proving the trektard is lying through his teeth. | |||
;Topple: cannot logically mean "got one's foot stuck"<ref>Darkstar trying to insist the Ewoks dug REEEEEAAAAAALLLLLY big pits explicitly for the AT-STs</ref> | |||
== U == | == U == | ||
;Universal: selective quotations of a source. (Example: [[JMSpock]] attempts to use the half-dozen categories listed in the "SW vs ST in Five Minutes"<ref>[http://www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/Essays/FiveMinutes.html Star Wars versus Star Trek in Five Minutes]</ref> essay to prove Mike thinks the Empire has universal advantage over the Star Trek universe | |||
;Unquantifiable mechanism: a mechanism that the trektard is certain has positive energy output, thereby lowering the energy requirement of the [[superlaser]]. | |||
== V == | |||
;Variable: so thoroughly consistent that a reliable time estimate can be generated.<ref>[[JMSpock]] attempting to defend his use of stardates to generate uberwank warp speeds, even though Gene Roddenberry himself said they don't match real time.</ref> | |||
==References== | |||
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[[Category:Debate]] |
Latest revision as of 22:08, 24 June 2008
Fanatical Trektards speak a different language than the rest of society. To aid members of the general population who might be big enough gluttons for punishment to want to understand them, we present this helpful translation guide:
A
- Affect
- Completely obliterate everything within the stated radius.[1]
- Any moment
- anytime within the next week.[2]
- Assumption
- anything the Trekkie feels like pulling out of his ass and should be treated as if it were canon.
B
- Biased
- Warsie who won't let me get away with my trektard bullshit [3]
- Boring
- Trektard response to avoid admitting his argument makes no sense [4]
C
- Capture
- see ‘Affect’
- Censorship
- daring to enforce the forum rules of SD.net. The trektard posts stupid, unsupported claims, commits numerous other rule violations and subsequently gets banned. He then whines on any other forum that will tolerate him about how SD.net won't tolerate his "alternative non-pro-wars" views
- Collapsing buildings
- all thats needed for a BDZ to turn a city covered planet's surface to slag
- Consulting experts
- trekkie busy removing the warsie's boot from said trekkie's ass. [5]
D
- Death Threat
- any 100% fictional story written by a warsie that includes bodily harm to one or more of the characters even if none of them actually die
- Debate challenge
- the Trektard gets to set any rules for declaring victory he wants.[6]
- Destroy
- completely vaporize due 100% to the energy of the impacting weapon, even if the target is known to contain components that are known to be highly explosive, and even if debris can clearly be seen flying away from the explosion.
- Details
- something that can be completely ommited if doing so helps the Trektard's argument/not doing so blows said argument out of the water. However, if a warsie leaves out the slightest bit of information when quoting, even if it has no bearing on the topic being discussed, its a delibrate lie.
- Diluting the original issue
- Pointing out where the Trekkie has made logical errors on a sentence by sentence basis, thereby diluting his post by "trivial quotation tactics."[7]
- Discard evidence
- show that the Trekkie’s assumptions regarding said evidence are bullshit.
E
- Education
- Time served.
- Something that can be acquired through google searching
- Something not applicable to/needed for debate
- Emotional impact
- mocking a Trektard's ridiculous self-refuting arguments; attempt to distract from the fact that the Trektard's timetable is utterly absurd.[8]
- Emotional investment
- being proud of one's academic accomplishments when the trektard thinks one should be ashamed of them and hide them under a rock, rather than using them to show just how far above the trekkie he is.
- Enemy is no longer firing
- enemy gunnery crew has been completely exterminated .
- Every-day SW reader
- A reliable source of SW information, even though most are ignorant teenagers who sheepishly recited the ridiculous five-mile Executor claim.
- One of the dozen or so Darkstar cockgoblins at StarfleetJedi Forums.
- A legitimate, logical use of the appeal to popularity fallacy.[9]
- Evidence
- Something that does not matter in a debate about things based in fiction.
- Anything a Trektard feels like making up.[10]
- Explanation
- Any idea that weakens Star Wars technology levels but which doesn't actually explain anything. When actually examined, is clearly a bunch of nonsense.[11]
F
- Forget
- Not reading the Trekkie’s responses to other posters.
I
- Ignore
- See 'forget'
- point out that something is a figment of the trektard's imagination.[12]
- A warsie admitting he don't have an explanation and dare to point out to the trektard that he doesn't either; that a completely undefined mechanism doesn't explain a damned thing (see 'Explanation').[13]
- Ignore Evidence and/or Canon
- Not make the same wanked assumptions about said evidence the Trektard would.
- Not interpret a statement literally, even when said statement makes absolutely zero sense.
- Invasion
- Ten or fewer members of a rival board of thousands come to embarrass me on my cum-covered VS thread. Even if some of them are regular members.
L
- Legal threat
- daring to mention to a trektard that their committing libel against one of their debate opponents might result in legal trouble in real life.
- Lie
- something only warsies do
M
- Metaphor
- something that should be interpreted literally
- Misrepresentation
- direct quoting
- Molten Slag
- almost melted planetary surface
N
- Nonsense
- any part of canon, official material or an official quote that the trektard doesn't like and doesn't fit in with his pet 'theories'. [14][15]
- Normal
- The fanatical trektard and all his trektard cockgoblins. Everyone else is a 'rabid warsie'. [16]
- Not focus on (a particular issue)
- not show any evidence regarding said issue at all
- Not impossible
- proof that it happened [17]
O
- Override canon
- not mention at all. (note, in SW, there is a hierarchy to deal with explicit contradictions in canon material. Many trektards (Andrew Joshua Talon, Husker (DM) Jay) try and claim this applies to topics the higher canon is completely silent on. In other words, if the C- or S- canon mentions a particular capability and the films say nothing about it, the Trektards interpret said silence as a contradiction.)
P
- Persecution
- Arguing against a Trektard. Refuting the trektard's arguments
- Using public information easily available about the Trektard, no matter how harmless
- Planetary Shield
- a weapon and therefore something Alderaan did not have because of Leia's statement that her home planet didn't have any weapons.
- Premise
- groundless assumption
- Pulled-from-thin-air
- realizing a galaxy wide conflict would require far more troops than modern day-Earth nations.[18]
- Persuasive video
- visual medium showing how ridiculous a Trektard's argument really is.[19]
R
- Refute (as in an argument or piece of official SW literature)
- the Trekkie doesn't like it but can't logically show it wrong.
S
- Stationary
- does NOT imply that a starship is not actually moving.
- Substantial Content
- something that must support Trektard's delusions.[20]
- Suckered
- grow up, face reality and get an education; to let go of the wishful thinking of ignorance
- Superluminal boost
- sucked or shunt into
- something that MUST lower the energy requirement of the Death Star rather than raising it.
- Suspension of disbelief
- the warsie thinks Star Wars actually is real. Note that Trektards making such accusations are often the same people running around claiming Star Trek is completely realistic and predicted and/or is responsible for technological innovations like cell phones.
T
- Tactical Experience
- I've been playing RTS games for over 10 years.
- Theory
- anything that gives the trektard wet dreams, even though it isn't even defined.[21]
- not actually canon but the trektard will describe it as if it were, in the same sentence and in the same tone as his description of other canon facts.[22]
- Tool
- proving the trektard is lying through his teeth.
- Topple
- cannot logically mean "got one's foot stuck"[23]
U
- Universal
- selective quotations of a source. (Example: JMSpock attempts to use the half-dozen categories listed in the "SW vs ST in Five Minutes"[24] essay to prove Mike thinks the Empire has universal advantage over the Star Trek universe
- Unquantifiable mechanism
- a mechanism that the trektard is certain has positive energy output, thereby lowering the energy requirement of the superlaser.
V
- Variable
- so thoroughly consistent that a reliable time estimate can be generated.[25]
References
- ↑ Trektard interpretation of Tuvok's description of the borg weapon in "Scorpion"
- ↑ Who is like God arbour's response to "Sullust to Endor"
- ↑ Husker (DM) Jay's cowardly way of dealing with Stardestroyer.net or any warsie arguments he can't refute
- ↑ Who is like God arbour's response to "Sullust to Endor"
- ↑ Mike Wong kicking Stewie's ass
- ↑ Darkstar trying to dictate insane terms for the debate with Mike Wong
- ↑ Bryan on Spacebattles.com objecting to Aratech doing a point-by-point rebuttal of his arguments
- ↑ Darkstar's response to "Sullust to Endor"
- ↑ Darkstar's state of debate 2008
- ↑ The "band of brightness" from Darkstar's undefined Death Star Chain reaction theory
- ↑ Darkstar's undefined Death Star Chain reaction
- ↑ Darkstar's state of debate 2008
- ↑ Mike Wong vs Darkstar debate round 5b point 2
- ↑ Darkstar's state of debate 2008
- ↑ Mike Wong vs Darkstar debate round 4a
- ↑ Darkstar's state of debate 2008
- ↑ Who is like God arbour's response to "Sullust to Endor" (thanks wyrm!!!)
- ↑ Darkstar's state of debate 2008
- ↑ Darkstar's response to "Sullust to Endor"
- ↑ Who is like God arbour's response to "Sullust to Endor"
- ↑ Darkstar's undefined Death Star Chain reaction
- ↑ JMSpock's "Star Wars uses diesel fusion" idiocy
- ↑ Darkstar trying to insist the Ewoks dug REEEEEAAAAAALLLLLY big pits explicitly for the AT-STs
- ↑ Star Wars versus Star Trek in Five Minutes
- ↑ JMSpock attempting to defend his use of stardates to generate uberwank warp speeds, even though Gene Roddenberry himself said they don't match real time.